Avoiding eBay Annoyances
Online is an infinite everything outlet, selling everything from your everyday business needs to groceries. But while options like Amazon offer support and guarantees, you may be tempted by the eBay underground. Some of those deals look too good to be true, and here we look at the predictable results of that statement:
1. Sniping
The eBay arena makes World War I trenches look like a haven for big-headed soldiers. Just in case Doctor Doom has kept you in a faraday cage for the last ten years: eBay auctions operate an a set time limit, and because it’s an impassive machine instead of an actual person enforcing the bidding, it’s possible to swoop in at the last microsecond and snatch an item.
This problem is so serious that the system software has been upgraded to deal with it — now you input your maximum value, not your current bid, and your computer will automatically outbid opponents up to that limit. Of course, their machines are doing the same thing and this rapidly escalates things to the maximum, and the meta-sniper makes his maximum more milliseconds before the close of bidding.
If this all sounds like an enormous hassle, as well as a great way of guaranteeing that the item goes to the saddest person willing to spend the most time on the computer, that’s because it is! You know how here at the Smartlife we tell you how the Internet can save you time? This is like the anti-Smartlife — an SL with a goatee and a scar out to undo our actions.
2. *Not As Advertised
If you can’t see any problems with handing over money for something you’ve only ever seen a picture of, watch out, you’ve had your memory erased by Dr. Mindbender! This means you’re probably G.I. Joe and should punch anyone you see wearing a monocle. eBay is ideal for all who wish to advertise, falsely or not: the Nobel Prize for Scam Sales goes to the auction for a genuine NASA toolbag. One that apparently fell directly from the International Space Station onto a Minnesota golf course! Or more accurately, news of the dropped toolbag fell into the head of an extremely amateur fraudster, and a rather optimistic eBay auction was the result.
Lesson #1: Sixteen people bid for it — this should tell you everything you need to know about the eBay baseline.
Lesson #2: After several complaints the auction was pulled, only to be relaunched on a different account later — negative feedback only affects honest sellers, which kind of misses the point. Scammers just start again.
3. Scamming
Outside of the optimistic everything-sellers trading in unicorn hair and Paris Hilton’s dignity, there are the professional scammers out to beg, borrow, hack, and steal your credit card information. This isn’t just the “Prinsse of Nig-er1a” grade trash either — these guys can have fully equipped bank-impersonating webpages, escrow-a-likes, and any amount of official-appearing emails asking for all your info.
eBay offers all sorts of protection — so, to save time and avoid losing money, you have to sign up for an extra level of services with a company out for your money, turning one-click shopping into the form-filling equivalent of doing your taxes in triplicate.
4. What Complaints?
But surely it’s in the service’s best interests to set up smooth sailing for the customers, right? HINT: Mindbender just zapped you again.
It’s in the service’s best interests, which start with p and rhyme with money-rofit, to keep customers flowing without wasting expensive man-hours on any of them. Ever.
eBay’s customer service is best represented in the famous case of the P-P-P-Powerbook prank, where a customer was targeted by a scam so obvious the criminal might as well have sent a JPG of him twirling his pencil mustache while holding a bag marked “SWAG.” eBay’s response? A form email teaching the customer how to escrow the guy money! So either auto-reply server #17 doesn’t care about the customer, or is actually getting a cut from the criminals. Nevermind how, in 2002, eBay closed its customer complaint email address altogether to “streamline” the customer service experience — right out of existence.
PayPal, the preferred payment option for online auctions, does even better: it took legal action (enforcement of the EFTA act) to get PayPal to print a customer complaint number at all.
But since the Supreme Court hasn’t got involved to actually make them co-operate you shouldn’t get your hopes up.
5. Now It’s YOUR Broken Crap!
In any case of incorrect, incomplete, or utterly inadequate purchases, the first thing any seller will insist on is you returning the item. Assuming you’re not a post office, and most people aren’t, this would drain such a fantastic amount of time and energy that most customers decide not to chalk it up to experience — exactly what the scummy seller was counting on.
So what is one to do? Simple: stay the hell away. If you’re getting anything for the office, for example, the fact is that you actually need it to, you know, do work and can’t afford endless hours of inquiry and investigations. eBay is strictly a hobbyist’s heaven, a place where they can pick up rare items for their collection AND get incredible war stories about how much hassle they went through to get them!
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COMMENT PRIZES: We’re offering two eBay gift cards (just kidding, they are actually Amazon gift cards) to whomever supplies (1) the most egregious example of how eBay can waste your time and money and (2) the best advice for avoiding an unproductive and money-wasting eBay transaction. The Editor will unilaterally determine the winners; he can be persuaded, however, by whoever receives the most “thumbs up.” Prizes will be administered on April 30. Good luck!








March 25th, 2009 at 3:54 am Vote:
(1) the most egregious example of how eBay can waste your time and money
Live help. I love eBay’s live help, with their outsourced-to-god-knows-what-country reps trying to sound American, their canned responses, and let’s not forget their great ability to fail at multi tasking as they “serve” multiple chat windows at once.
As I am forever an optimist, or perhaps I am just a masochist, I have put myself through this eBay-induced-hell about once every 1-2 months. I hold out the hope that one day they will train their reps, or at least find ones who have actually been to the ebay site.
Here is the way it goes down:
1. I introduce myself, and reprovide (per request) the information I already entered in the pre-chat box.
2. I thoroughly explain my problem, and outline all of the steps I have taken as an attempt to solve it myself. Let’s say I am having trouble uploading pictures for the sake of example.
3. I get a canned “I will be happy to assist you with this issue!” response.
4. I sit on hold for about 5 mins until I finally ask “Are you still there?”
5. Rep comes back, and explains to me how to leave feedback.
6. I politely explain to the rep how nice that is, except I have been leaving feedback for the last 8 yrs, have that part down, and didn’t ask.
7. Rep apologizes and says they are still looking into it.
8. I sit on hold for about 5 mins until I finally ask “Are you still there?”
9. Rep comes back, and explains to me how to change my password.
10. Thanks again for the info, however… still not my question. At this point, I question them about whether they READ my question?
11. Apologies all around. Now back to our story.
12. The rep then explains the basic steps of how to add pictures. And explains it wrong.
13. I spend the next 5 mins training them on the way you ACTUALLY add pictures, as they quite obviously have never used the ebay site.
14. Then I remind him/her that I never asked how to do so. I am reporting a problem I am having whereas the normal way is not working. I repeat the issue and the steps I have taken to resolve it on my own.
15. Holding… holding… holding…
16. They again explain to me the normal way to add pics.
17. Me -> Hello? Have you read anything I have typed? That isn’t the correct way to add pics, and that isn’t my question! Is there someone there who can answer this for me???
18. Holding… holding…. holding…
19. You are going to need to take that up with customer support (ummmm.. what are you?) A link to the support page I could have already gone to myself, as it is on internet speedial, is then posted by the rep.
20. “Can I help you with anything else?”
21. Else? Ummm… did you help me with something? Oh yes, he/she helped me waste 45 mins of my life and now I have run out of time to work and have to get my daughter from school.
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(2) the best advice for avoiding an unproductive and money-wasting eBay transaction
Shop somewhere else? Ok, I guess you don’t want the obvious answers. Check their DSRs, # of recent negative feedbacks & member since date. Also see if they are id verified and paypal verified. See how many feedbacks have been revised (it is toward the left of the feedback page.) Most importantly, check WHAT the negative feedbacks SAY. If the feedbacks say “post office took forever to deliver” ignor those feedbacks. However, if the feedbacks say “seller didn’t ship for a month, then sent it by a lower class mail than I paid for” run for cover.
Also look for feedbacks that say:
- item not new as stated in listing
- I paid for 2 but only got 1
- seller is not answering their emails
- seller did not respond until I opened a paypal dispute
- this isn’t what I ordered
- package was insured, but seller refused to process the claim
these are just a few examples of what to look for. Obviously if the seller has quite a few feedbacks, and negatives rarely occur in their profile, then it should be fine. Especially if their communication & service is praised in the positives. Remember, good sellers get wackos from time to time. So look for patterns of abuse, not a stray issue here and there. And look for sellers who have plenty of feedback to look at.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:32 am Vote:
Sandy, you have taken an early, commanding lead! Great comment.
July 14th, 2009 at 9:15 pm Vote:
Another thing about eBay is how greedy they’ve become over the past few months.
You can tell there are people working there whose whole job is just all about thinking of ways to wheedle a little here, a little there, out of us.
I know my sister has now set up her own website and Zen shopping cart just so she can now sell off it as well as eBay, because eBay fees are now so high
July 20th, 2009 at 12:49 pm Vote:
I used to sell quite a lot on ebay and made a decent second income for a while but the fees just kept going up and up and no matter how much outrage there seemed to be from the ebay community, nothing ever changed. It still amazes me that the popularity of it seems to remain intact. How many times can a company piss off it’s user base and still survive?